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Monday, 2013 July 5th, 6:00 pm UTC
Proposed Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- course data progress
- translations
- recordings
- course editor & trainer progress
- GHNS implementation (ready to merge?)
- training mode
- progress user documentation
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendees: ...
Monday, 2013 July 29th, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- course data progress
- translations
- recordings
- course editor & trainer progress
- GHNS implementation
- progress user documentation
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendees: Andreas, Oindrila, Magda, samikshan
- review tasks from last week/reports
- Oini:
- recording problem fixed
- outline for user documentation: https://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Artikulate/Todo#Proposal_for_User_Documentation
- created script to get all the phrases from a course and preprocess translation
- Konki:
- was working on GHNS implementation for courses distribution: it works ok, but not perfectly yet
- Andreas
- the KDE on Windows guys are getting ready to make Artikulate usable on Windows
- Dimitris sent a new heap of Greek recordings \o/
- samikshan says hello!
- Oini:
- course data progress
- this week Bengali will probably get completed
- Greek makes great progress
- we will write more calls for "standard foreign learning languages", first is American English (Oindrila will write blog post)
- course editor & trainer progress
- GHNS implementation nearly working: noticed that sometimes deleting/uninstalling the course does not work
- implementation similar to KLettres
- we will look into the question how to integrate GHNS better into our interface
- progress user documentation
- Oini presents her plan
- everybody likes the plan
- Oini will create the wiki pages and ping us when she needs any help/input/texts/review
- miscellaneous
- nothing misc
Tuesday, 2013 July 23rd, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- course data progress
- Translations
- Recordings
- course editor & trainer progress
- progress user documentation
- contributor recruiting
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila, Myriam
- review tasks from last week/reports
- Magda
- was working on python script that gets files from artikulate-data repository and it is almost finished (some small changes needed)
- lots of research about GHNS
- Oindrila:
- internet problems, working on fixing recording
- Andreas
- two BoFs about Personas for Langauge Learning and contributing to Artikulate
- recruited several helpers: Italian, American English, (probably Spanish, need some more pokes), Greek (though Dimitris appeared by himself!)
- reimplemented the training mode
- changed course data loading to loading on demand (resource-manager will be re-factored in the not so far future...)
- put the course files that Magda's script creates to files.kde.org/edu/artikulate
- Magda
- course data progress
- same state as last week
- plus two new units in Greek
- course editor & trainer progress
- everybody: please test!
- next week, also involve the usability people for trainer UI
- progress user documentation
- will discuss it next week
- contributor recruiting
- we will post blogs and specifically ask for some languages
- we already heard from several people that they want to help
- miscellaneous
- please update the information at https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/StatusReports
- Andreas plans series of blog posts the next days/weeks about language learning
- Andreas started to draft some Personas for language learning, but it is still rather incomplete: https://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Artikulate/Personas
Monday, 2013 July 15st, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- course data progress
- Skeleton work
- Translations
- course editor progress
- progress contributor documentation
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila
- Reports
- Oindrila:
- finished all units
- created Hindi Course
- Bengali Course will be done by this week
- Magda
- Added recording for female polish speaker for 8 units and for french male speaker for 2 units
- Translated 8 units into french
- added screenshots to current contributor manual
- Andreas
- created release
- Oindrila:
- course data progress
- basic course skeleton: done
- good progress
- Andreas will add working statistics to course editor (number of missing recordings...)
- Course editor progress
- Andreas has some plans...
- allow to change the backend (Qt Multimedia, what is currently used, is not available everywhere)
- introduce a backend that can also easily be built in Windows (Simon-lib)
- by default change to Simon-lib which has an awesome set of internal tools that make recordings "better" (automatic noise removal, normalization...)
- reenable the training mode the next weekend
- Andreas creates sketch for GHNS implementation, compiles a list of starting points for Magda
- Andreas has some plans...
- Contributor Documentation
- Contributor documentation: done
- next week: talk about user documentation
- Oini drafts structure for user documentation
- Contributor Recruiting
- slides are done
- let's see how many people will show up
- Misc
- nothing
Monday, 2013 July 8st, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- course data progress
- Skeleton work
- Translations
- course editor progress
- progress contributor documentation
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- miscellaneous
Notes
- review tasks from last week/reports
- Magda:
- nearly finished translating basic skeleton into Polish (one unit left)
- added some recording for male polish speaker (Time and Dates, Alphabet, Numbers, Weather, Countries and cultures, Sport and Tourism
- translated two units into French (Numbers and Alphabet)
- filled in gaps in the contributor manual and general cleaning
- Oindrila:
- skeleton units: only "at a party" remains undone
- six units translated into Bengali
- Andreas:
- several editor fixes
- Magda:
- course data progress
- schedule says, we should be done this week
- only two units remain
- adjusted schedules a little bit
- Andreas will create overview table about current translation state
- course editor progress
- release targetted to Thursday/Friday
- Andreas will create blog post after release
- progress contributor documentation
- nearly finished \o/
- put skeleton creation by UI button as Wishlist bug to bugs.k.o and point documenation to it
- else contributor documentation should be done
- Magda will add screenshots
- everybody proof reading please!
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- Andreas prepares slides and sends them around this week
- everybody blogs :)
- miscellaneous
- Andreas will add "dismiss" button for phrases (skeleton phrases that explicitly are not part of a unit)
Monday, 2013 July 1st, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- course data progress
- Skeleton work
- Translations
- editor progress
- progress contributor documentation
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- tasks until next meeting
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendants: Andreas, Magda, Mamarok, (Oindrila excused)
- review tasks from last week/reports
- Magda:
- added Polish phonology and created a Polish and French course
- translated some units into Polish: Weather, Sport, Countries and Cultures,Toursim and Family
- worked on the contributor manual: so now almost all subsections have some information
- Andreas:
- scheduled some BoFs for Akademy: general KDE Edu meeting, Persona discussion for language learning programs, Artikulate contributor recruiting
- fixed several small bugs at Artikulate
- did some small UI cleanup at the course editor
- figured out that we already can have different phrase types in skeleton and course
- Oindrila:
- finished several courses
- Magda:
- course data progress
- Skeleton work
- slightly ahead of schedule
- Translations
- about 5 units already translated into Polish
- Magda will soon start making recordings
- Skeleton work
- editor progress
- next meeting: list of remaining blockers for a contributor release
- progress contributor documentation
- a lot of progress
- everybody: please review the texts
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- BoF scheduled
- Andreas will discuss with Oindrila how to plan that hour
- Andreas will prepare release of contributor preview of Artikulate
- miscellaneous
- high priority is contributor manual
- we need a logo!
Monday, 2013 Juni 24th, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- progress in skeleton work
- progress contributor documentation
- courses:
- translations
- gathering recordings strategy
- www.flossie.org
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- Trainer UI
- tasks until next meeting
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila
- Task Review/Reports
- Magda:
- added three more units: Entertainment, At the Doctors and At the supermarket
- edited the techbase to create a manual incorporating the existing instruction into it
- Andreas:
- fixed open file handlers bug
- started work at recording indicator
- Oindrila:
- Lydia replied saying that she will let her know more about the Student Programs Presentation
- Magda:
- progress in skeleton work
- Magda finished all her units
- Oindrila will add her units the next days
- progress contributor documentation
- already quite good
- discussed minor improvements
- courses: translations & gathering recordings strategy
- Magda started with translating to Polish and French
- we must respect that if a phrase is a word in one language, in another it can be an expression/sentence: Andreas will make changes to allow different set values
- we should not aim to make word-by-word translations but try to give each phrase a most similar meaning in the translated language
- we should translate the skeletons trying to keep similar structure, but if not we are able to change words into phrases, maybe phrases to sentences, etc.
- try to have same amount of male as of female recordings
- rule of thumb: speaker records every second sound
- www.flossie.org
- Oindrila will prepare proposal
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- skip, since no BoF call out yet
- Trainer UI
- can we allow the specific choice of speakers for a training? (Andreas checks what would be necessary to implement that)
- Misc
- Andreas will make changes to allow different phrase type in skeleton and course
Monday, 2013 Juni 17th, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- progress in skeleton work
- progress contributor documentation
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- Trainer UI mockups
- tasks until next meeting
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila
- review tasks from last week/reports
- Magda:
- new units added to course skeleton: Weather, Time and Dates and Clothing
- skeleton for contributor manual created
- Oindrila: added descriptions to the CourseData wiki
- Artikulate/Events page created
- mailed Jeff and Lydia about the Student Programs Presentations and the Bof
- created Hindi Phonology
- Andreas: created Trainer UI Mockup
- Magda:
- progress in skeleton work
- progress looks good, everything still as predicted by the schedule :)
- progress contributor documentation
- Magda will start merging existing documentation to the new structure
- we will talk next week about distributing documentation tasks
- Akademy contributor recruiting
- we want to have a BoF at the Akademy
- we should get in touch with local KDE communities (Spain, France)
- discussion point for BoF is how to handle different accents
- the [Marble/VoiceOfMarble Voice of Marble] project could give interesting ideas
- Trainer UI mockups
- positively received
- Andreas will sketch implementation plan for this until next meeting
- tasks until next meeting
- only the ones from above
- miscellaneous
- none
Monday, 2013 June 10rd, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- review tasks from last week/reports
- progress in skeleton work
- discuss structure for contributor documentation
- plans for Akademy contributor recruiting
- tasks until next meeting
- miscellaneous
Notes
Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila
- Reports
- Magda:
- added blog to planetKDE
- created developer account
- added 4 new units: Weather, Sport, Family, and Countries and cultures
- added recordings for British English
- drafted plan for contributor handbook
- Oindrila
- working on Hindi phonology
- added blog to planetKDE
- Course overview has new column
- work at course editor
- Magda:
- Course Skeleton Progress
- progress is good!
- Newly finished: Weather, Sport, Family, and Countries
- we update the course planning page with unit descriptions
- Contributor Documentation
- Magda presents concept (now at wiki)
- contributor documentation will be at techbase
- we will start creating stub pages for the main topics
- major part must be finished until Akademy
- Akademy Event
- Oindrila will ask Jeff about lightning talks for GSoC students
- we will organize a BoF to talk about how to contribute courses
- course editor, basic course skeleton and contributor documentation must be finished (and tested) for this
- ToDos
- all: add unit descriptions to planning page
- Oindrila: add Akademy event concept to wiki
- Magda: create pages for contributor documenation
- Andreas: create mockup for new traning screen
- Misc
- nothing
Monday, 2013 June 3rd, 6:00 pm UTC
Agenda
- discuss proposed unit list
- project responsibilities for OPW/GSoC 2013
- milestones for OPW/GSoC 2013
- promotion (subscribe to planet.kde.org, etc.)
- workflows/technical stuff:
- usage of reviewboard
- creating developer accounts
- tasks until next meeting
Notes
Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila
- Units
- overall look OK
- "Emergency" unit will cover natural calamity, theft, accident (but not medical)
- "Proverbs" will not be included in basic course skeleton, but moved to list of "interesting topics" (reason: proverbs differ too much even for simliar languages)
- Oindrila will add column "Descriptions" to course list and we all will add some details what the units will be about
- Coordination Responsibilities
- Learner UI & Feedback mechanisms: Oindrila
- Course Distribution & Course Integrity Checks: Magdalena
- Languages:
- Bengali (Oindrila)
- Hindi (Oindrila)
- French (Magdalena)
- Polish (Magdalena)
- American English (Andreas)
- Documentation
- Contributor Part: Magdalena
- End User/Learner: Oindrila
- Milestones
- look OK
- will discuss again next week and check if time points seem reasonable
- Organization
- Oindrila and Magdalena will register blogs at planet.kde.org
- Magdalena will request KDE contributor account