KDEEdu/Artikulate/Meetings

Meeting Minutes

Monday, 2013 July 12th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • translations
   • recordings
3. course editor & trainer progress
4. progress user documentation
5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: ...

Monday, 2013 July 5th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • translations
   • recordings
3. course editor & trainer progress
   • GHNS implementation (ready to merge?)
   • training mode
4. progress user documentation
5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
   • Andreas
     • we moved to new IRC channel #kde-artikulate (thanks to Kenny and the freenode admins!)
     • poked Jeremy and he fixed a KNS Bug for us :)
   • Magda
     • GHNS is finished now and working well
     • working on the UI: so far learnt a bit of QML and how to use C++ within it and manged to do first small change: making the status bar clickable
   • Oindrila
     • a lot of Bengali recordings
     • wrote blog post to ask for help in recording US English phrases and we found interested people!
     • created a starting page for the user documentation
   • all students passed the midterms \o/
2. course data progress
   • another release in approx. 2 weeks and try to convince some of the very popular distros to ship it
   • problems with compiling against QtMultimedia (especially on ArchLinux and OpenSuse -> Andreas plans to add an optional QtGStreamer backend)
   • a lot of progress in Bengali
   • we need some stats in the course editor that gives info about translating/recording status of courses
   • call for recordings/translations for French and Spanish next week after we have QtGStreamer backend
3. course editor & trainer progress
   • download_dialog branch (i.e. GHNS) will be merged into master
   • Magda will work on better positioning of buttons -> will issue review request and request review by usability people
   • Andreas working on (1) QtGStreamer backend, (2) resource manager rewrite
   • further open todos: add a menu bar (like in typical programs), 6-box-algorithm learning mode for selecting the next phrase, add big button "Get New Courses" at the starting page
4. progress user documentation
   • scheduled for next week, need input from Oindrila first
   • a short mail about current status and plans would be awesome
5. miscellaneous
   • we need a logo
   • Inge's basic vocabulary course for Parley (edu-list) looks great!

Monday, 2013 July 29th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • translations
   • recordings
3. course editor & trainer progress
   • GHNS implementation
4. progress user documentation
5. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Oindrila, Magda, samikshan

1. review tasks from last week/reports
   • Oini:
     1. recording problem fixed
     2. outline for user documentation: https://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Artikulate/Todo#Proposal_for_User_Documentation
     3. created script to get all the phrases from a course and preprocess translation
   • Konki:
     1. was working on GHNS implementation for courses distribution: it works ok, but not perfectly yet
   •  Andreas
     1. the KDE on Windows guys are getting ready to make Artikulate usable on Windows
     2. Dimitris sent a new heap of Greek recordings \o/
   • samikshan says hello!
2. course data progress
   • this week Bengali will probably get completed
   • Greek makes great progress
   • we will write more calls for "standard foreign learning languages", first is American English (Oindrila will write blog post)
3. course editor & trainer progress
   • GHNS implementation nearly working: noticed that sometimes deleting/uninstalling the course does not work
   • implementation similar to KLettres
   • we will look into the question how to integrate GHNS better into our interface
4. progress user documentation
   • Oini presents her plan
   • everybody likes the plan
   • Oini will create the wiki pages and ping us when she needs any help/input/texts/review
5. miscellaneous
   • nothing misc

Tuesday, 2013 July 23rd, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • Translations
   • Recordings
3. course editor & trainer progress
4. progress user documentation
5. contributor recruiting
6. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila, Myriam

1. review tasks from last week/reports
   • Magda
     • was working on python script that gets files from artikulate-data repository and it is almost finished (some small changes needed)
     • lots of research about GHNS
   • Oindrila:
     • internet problems, working on fixing recording
   • Andreas
     • two BoFs about Personas for Langauge Learning and contributing to Artikulate
     • recruited several helpers: Italian, American English, (probably Spanish, need some more pokes), Greek (though Dimitris appeared by himself!)
     • reimplemented the training mode
     • changed course data loading to loading on demand (resource-manager will be re-factored in the not so far future...)
     • put the course files that Magda's script creates to files.kde.org/edu/artikulate
2. course data progress
   • same state as last week
   • plus two new units in Greek
3. course editor & trainer progress
   • everybody: please test!
   • next week, also involve the usability people for trainer UI
4. progress user documentation
   • will discuss it next week
5. contributor recruiting
   • we will post blogs and specifically ask for some languages
   • we already heard from several people that they want to help
6. miscellaneous
   • please update the information at https://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/StatusReports
   • Andreas plans series of blog posts the next days/weeks about language learning
   • Andreas started to draft some Personas for language learning, but it is still rather incomplete: https://community.kde.org/KDEEdu/Artikulate/Personas

Monday, 2013 July 15st, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • Skeleton work
   • Translations
3. course editor progress
4. progress contributor documentation
5. Akademy contributor recruiting
6. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendees: Andreas, Magda, Oindrila

1. Reports
   • Oindrila:
     • finished all units
     • created Hindi Course
     • Bengali Course will be done by this week
   • Magda
     • Added recording for female polish speaker for 8 units and for french male speaker for 2 units
     • Translated 8 units into french
     • added screenshots to current contributor manual
   • Andreas
     • created release
2. course data progress
   • basic course skeleton: done
   • good progress
   • Andreas will add working statistics to course editor (number of missing recordings...)
3. Course editor progress
   • Andreas has some plans...
     1. allow to change the backend (Qt Multimedia, what is currently used, is not available everywhere)
     2. introduce a backend that can also easily be built in Windows (Simon-lib)
     3. by default change to Simon-lib which has an awesome set of internal tools that make recordings "better" (automatic noise removal, normalization...)
     4. reenable the training mode the next weekend
   • Andreas creates sketch for GHNS implementation, compiles a list of starting points for Magda
4. Contributor Documentation
   • Contributor documentation: done
   • next week: talk about user documentation
   • Oini drafts structure for user documentation
5. Contributor Recruiting
   • slides are done
   • let's see how many people will show up
6. Misc
   • nothing

Monday, 2013 July 8st, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • Skeleton work
   • Translations
3. course editor progress
4. progress contributor documentation
5. Akademy contributor recruiting
6. miscellaneous

Notes

1. review tasks from last week/reports
   • Magda:
     • nearly finished translating basic skeleton into Polish (one unit left)
     • added some recording for male polish speaker (Time and Dates, Alphabet, Numbers, Weather, Countries and cultures, Sport and Tourism
     • translated two units into French (Numbers and Alphabet)
     • filled in gaps in the contributor manual and general cleaning
   • Oindrila:
     • skeleton units: only "at a party" remains undone
     • six units translated into Bengali
   • Andreas:
     • several editor fixes
2. course data progress
   • schedule says, we should be done this week
   • only two units remain
   • adjusted schedules a little bit
   • Andreas will create overview table about current translation state
3. course editor progress
   • release targetted to Thursday/Friday
   • Andreas will create blog post after release
4. progress contributor documentation
   • nearly finished \o/
   • put skeleton creation by UI button as Wishlist bug to bugs.k.o and point documenation to it
   • else contributor documentation should be done
   • Magda will add screenshots
   • everybody proof reading please!
5. Akademy contributor recruiting
   • Andreas prepares slides and sends them around this week
   • everybody blogs :)
6. miscellaneous
   • Andreas will add "dismiss" button for phrases (skeleton phrases that explicitly are not part of a unit)

Monday, 2013 July 1st, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. course data progress
   • Skeleton work
   • Translations
3. editor progress
4. progress contributor documentation
5. Akademy contributor recruiting
6. tasks until next meeting
7. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magda, Mamarok, (Oindrila excused)

1. review tasks from last week/reports
   • Magda:
     • added Polish phonology and created a Polish and French course
     • translated some units into Polish: Weather, Sport, Countries and Cultures,Toursim and Family
     • worked on the contributor manual: so now almost all subsections have some information
   • Andreas:
     • scheduled some BoFs for Akademy: general KDE Edu meeting, Persona discussion for language learning programs, Artikulate contributor recruiting
     • fixed several small bugs at Artikulate
     • did some small UI cleanup at the course editor
     • figured out that we already can have different phrase types in skeleton and course
   • Oindrila:
     • finished several courses
2. course data progress
   • Skeleton work
     • slightly ahead of schedule
   • Translations
     • about 5 units already translated into Polish
     • Magda will soon start making recordings
3. editor progress
   • next meeting: list of remaining blockers for a contributor release
4. progress contributor documentation
   • a lot of progress
   • everybody: please review the texts
5. Akademy contributor recruiting
   • BoF scheduled
   • Andreas will discuss with Oindrila how to plan that hour
   • Andreas will prepare release of contributor preview of Artikulate
6. miscellaneous
   • high priority is contributor manual
   • we need a logo!

Monday, 2013 Juni 24th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. progress in skeleton work
3. progress contributor documentation
4. courses:
   1. translations
   2. gathering recordings strategy
5. www.flossie.org
6. Akademy contributor recruiting
7. Trainer UI
8. tasks until next meeting
9. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

1. Task Review/Reports
   • Magda:
     • added three more units: Entertainment, At the Doctors and At the supermarket
     • edited the techbase to create a manual incorporating the existing instruction into it
   • Andreas:
     • fixed open file handlers bug
     • started work at recording indicator
   • Oindrila:
     • Lydia replied saying that she will let her know more about the Student Programs Presentation
2. progress in skeleton work
   • Magda finished all her units
   • Oindrila will add her units the next days
3. progress contributor documentation
   • already quite good
   • discussed minor improvements
4. courses: translations & gathering recordings strategy
   • Magda started with translating to Polish and French
   • we must respect that if a phrase is a word in one language, in another it can be an expression/sentence: Andreas will make changes to allow different set values
   • we should not aim to make word-by-word translations but try to give each phrase a most similar meaning in the translated language
   • we should translate the skeletons trying to keep similar structure, but if not we are able to change words into phrases, maybe phrases to sentences, etc.
   • try to have same amount of male as of female recordings
   • rule of thumb: speaker records every second sound
5. www.flossie.org
   • Oindrila will prepare proposal
6. Akademy contributor recruiting
   • skip, since no BoF call out yet
7. Trainer UI
   • can we allow the specific choice of speakers for a training? (Andreas checks what would be necessary to implement that)
8. Misc
   • Andreas will make changes to allow different phrase type in skeleton and course

Monday, 2013 Juni 17th, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. progress in skeleton work
3. progress contributor documentation
4. Akademy contributor recruiting
5. Trainer UI mockups
6. tasks until next meeting
7. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

1. review tasks from last week/reports
   • Magda:
     • new units added to course skeleton: Weather, Time and Dates and Clothing
     • skeleton for contributor manual created
   • Oindrila: added descriptions to the CourseData wiki
     • Artikulate/Events page created
     • mailed Jeff and Lydia about the Student Programs Presentations and the Bof
     • created Hindi Phonology
   • Andreas: created Trainer UI Mockup
2. progress in skeleton work
   • progress looks good, everything still as predicted by the schedule :)
3. progress contributor documentation
   • Magda will start merging existing documentation to the new structure
   • we will talk next week about distributing documentation tasks
4. Akademy contributor recruiting
   • we want to have a BoF at the Akademy
   • we should get in touch with local KDE communities (Spain, France)
   • discussion point for BoF is how to handle different accents
   • the [Marble/VoiceOfMarble Voice of Marble] project could give interesting ideas
5. Trainer UI mockups
   • positively received
   • Andreas will sketch implementation plan for this until next meeting
6. tasks until next meeting
   • only the ones from above
7. miscellaneous
   • none

Monday, 2013 June 10rd, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. review tasks from last week/reports
2. progress in skeleton work
3. discuss structure for contributor documentation
4. plans for Akademy contributor recruiting
5. tasks until next meeting
6. miscellaneous

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

1. Reports
   • Magda:
     • added blog to planetKDE
     • created developer account
     • added 4 new units: Weather, Sport, Family, and Countries and cultures
     • added recordings for British English
     • drafted plan for contributor handbook
   • Oindrila
     • working on Hindi phonology
     • added blog to planetKDE
   • Course overview has new column
   • work at course editor
2. Course Skeleton Progress
   • progress is good!
   • Newly finished: Weather, Sport, Family, and Countries
   • we update the course planning page with unit descriptions
3. Contributor Documentation
   • Magda presents concept (now at wiki)
   • contributor documentation will be at techbase
   • we will start creating stub pages for the main topics
   • major part must be finished until Akademy
4. Akademy Event
   • Oindrila will ask Jeff about lightning talks for GSoC students
   • we will organize a BoF to talk about how to contribute courses
   • course editor, basic course skeleton and contributor documentation must be finished (and tested) for this
5. ToDos
   • all: add unit descriptions to planning page
   • Oindrila: add Akademy event concept to wiki
   • Magda: create pages for contributor documenation
   • Andreas: create mockup for new traning screen
6. Misc
   • nothing

Monday, 2013 June 3rd, 6:00 pm UTC

Agenda

1. discuss proposed unit list
2. project responsibilities for OPW/GSoC 2013
3. milestones for OPW/GSoC 2013
4. promotion (subscribe to planet.kde.org, etc.)
5. workflows/technical stuff:
   • usage of reviewboard
   • creating developer accounts
6. tasks until next meeting

Notes

Attendants: Andreas, Magdalena, Myriam, Oindrila

1. Units
   • overall look OK
   • "Emergency" unit will cover natural calamity, theft, accident (but not medical)
   • "Proverbs" will not be included in basic course skeleton, but moved to list of "interesting topics" (reason: proverbs differ too much even for simliar languages)
   • Oindrila will add column "Descriptions" to course list and we all will add some details what the units will be about
2. Coordination Responsibilities
   • Learner UI & Feedback mechanisms: Oindrila
   • Course Distribution & Course Integrity Checks: Magdalena
   • Languages:
     • Bengali (Oindrila)
     • Hindi (Oindrila)
     • French (Magdalena)
     • Polish (Magdalena)
     • American English (Andreas)
   • Documentation
     • Contributor Part: Magdalena
     • End User/Learner: Oindrila
3. Milestones
   • look OK
   • will discuss again next week and check if time points seem reasonable
4. Organization
   • Oindrila and Magdalena will register blogs at planet.kde.org
   • Magdalena will request KDE contributor account