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= Randa 2011 KDevelop Meeting =

== Agenda ==

=== Tue ===

* arrive

=== Wed ===

* get up with an agenda

==== Plugins ====

requirements for plugins in extragear/kdevelop/*:

* kdereview
* maintainer
* releasable
* unit tests (and none failing)

plugins to merge:

* kdevplatform/
** controlflowgraph
*** TODO: investigate status, get out of kdereview
** execute script
*** TODO: investigate status, get into kdereview
* kdevelop/
** qmake
*** TODO: Milian: investigate status, get into kdereview
* kdevelop/plugins/
** merge php/php-docs
*** TODO: Milian
** css
*** TODO: investigate status, get into kdereview
** execute browser
*** TODO: investigate status, get into kdereview
** xdebug
*** TODO: investigate status, get into kdereview

notes on /plugins:
* not a single big repo (devs against it)
* TODO: document easy "build-all" process on techbase

note for developers: kdevplatform API breakages must be fixed in every stable repo, i.e. everything in https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/kdevelop must be compiling

==== Build Bot & Unit Testing ====

* TODO: Get a build bot running
** either on every commit (much work)
** or at least once a day (single to implement)
* TODO: Get a unit test bot running
** requirements:
*** no failing unit tests (XFAIL is OK)
*** no agressive performance tests (time limit, memory limit, ...)
* TODO: investigate cdash
** kdelibs dashboard is down, not a good impression
* TODO: ask PovAddict on his experience with build bot + unit tests

==== Gluon ====

* try to rebase gluoncreator on kdevplatform
* put improvements into the platform
** plugin based diff-viewer (i.e. to compare designer files, images, ...)
** improved history viewer (timeline, ...)
* alternatively try to reuse parts of kdevplatform in gluoncreator
** problem: kdevplatform (rightly so!) expect full kdevplatform availability

==== Unit Tests ====

developers:

* never submit failing unit tests (use QEXPECT_FAIL)
* try to run unit tests regularily

=== Thu ===

==== Project Dashboard ====

saving/sharing:

* opt-in 'save to project file' which is shared to users via project.kdev4
** good for users opening the project the first time in kdevelop
* by default save changes to dashboard in .kdev4/ folder

plasmoids:
* vcs commit log (provided by vcs plugin)
* file contents view
* webslide
* feedreader

use cases:
* project website news (feed reader)
* project resources: bugtracker, mailing list, ... (webslide / file contents view)
* recent commits (vcs plugin)

==== Session Dashboard ====

* read-only
* only shown when no view exists, esp. on first start
* contents:
** recent sessions
** recent projects
** recent files
** open new file/session/project

==== Browser-Like Tabs ====

* niko pushed the rebased branches
* various feedback already implemented, still some stuff to-do

=== Fri ===

==== VCS ====

* get rid of diff to HEAD/BASE, integrate them to single action
* when calling 'show diff' from annotation bar, show full commit, i.e. including commit message and all changed files

=== Sat ===

=== Sun ===

=== Mon ===

==== Mass-Reload ====

* reload all action in file menu
** dialog showing all changed files
* also show one dialog for all when multiple files are modified/deleted, i.e. when switching branches / checkout -f, ...
* maybe improve inside kate

==== D&D ====

* adymo fixed it for toolviews
* we need it for projectmanager view

==== Areas ====

* when workingsets are plugin, make areas just list of toolviews, not also of documents
* switching between code<->debug should reuse workingset by default
* when activating review area, show diff or at least integrate with aleix's vcs view
* review area needs UI love
* toolbars must stay area dependent, there seems to be a bug on startup

==== Kate Plugins ====

* some useful plugins we want in kdevelop
** sql?
** xml?
* most are not useful, or simply duplicate stuff in kdevelop
* requires new ktexteditor interface most probably, question is whether this is accepted by kate guys

only two plugins, not really useful?

==== Quanta / External Plugins ====

* executescript kdevplatform
* dissolve quanta, sorry guys - my bad :-/ (milian)
** kdereview -> kdevelop/plugins: (with alpha release afterwards)
*** executebrowser -> Niko maintainer
*** css -> Milian/Niko maintainer
*** xdebug -> Niko maintainer, needs to be checked first
*** qmake -> Milian maintainer, stabilize first
*** phpformatter into PHP repo -> Milian maintainer, review first
** playground/kdevelop:
*** move rest out of quanta on-demand
*** most can be built stand-alone from quanta sources anyways
*** upload?? look at it, maybe release it as well

TODO: milian ask nicolas about moving out the plugins into own repo

==== Targets in ProjectManagerView ====

* project view filter can be used
* special ctest handling in cmake might be useful
** cdash property?
** milian: ask neundorf about it

==== Sessions UI ====

* menu does scale
** like recent files, limit to N last sessions
** session picker as fallback for other sessions
* session picker:
** needs UI love
** hide QUUid
** integrate delete/rename simpler
*** QDBus querying for whether it's possible to delete/rename
* krunner gets merged, yay

==== Output View ====

* try to use konsole for output
** needs work in konsole
** pros:
*** performance
*** colors
*** ...
** cons:
*** f4/jump to error
*** portability?
** make it as GSOC project?

=== Thu ===

* wrap up & leave home

== Discussion TODO ==

=== not so controversial ===

* [DONE] merge control flow into kdevplatform
* [DONE] merge qmake into kdevelop
* [DONE] extra-plugins module: css, execute-script, execute-browser, andreas' custom project manager, ...
* gluon integration
* handle rename/delete of file in editor view
* handle switching branch -> reload open (changed) files
* port mailing list to kde infrastructure
* improve website / wikis / ...
** promotion part
* integrate wiki documentation

=== controversial ===

* browser-like tabs
* welcome page
* drag&drop
* merge aliex's thesis work

=== very controversial ===

* destroy areas
* chromium-like UI

== Hacking TODO ==

* remove/disable/fix failing unit tests
* [DONE] fix QWarnings (esp. timer issues etc.)
** Milian: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-16558 - fixed in Qt 4.8.0
* go through review requests
* extended cli support (open in existing instance)
** requires extended dbus interface
** note David's kdevelop_attach
* krunner integration (session)

== Browser-like Tabs TODO ==
* remove Ctrl-T or bind it to what Ctrl-N does
* Ctrl-N should open new file in a new tab